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	<title>Comments on: I&#039;m An American. Who Do I Sue?</title>
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		<title>By: feral sparrowhawk</title>
		<link>http://www.sabrinadent.com/2008/05/29/im-an-american-who-do-i-sue/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>feral sparrowhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can completely see where you are coming from on this, but there is another way of looking at it.

Seven million Americans live overseas. Less than half a million of them voted in 2004 (I think I&#039;ve got that right). Many of those who didn&#039;t vote wanted to but found it too difficult to navigate the nightmare rules many states have on overseas voting. Those that did, other than those who were serving in the military voted Kerry around 70/30.

So take out Minnesota, put in Ohio and ...

All that said they absolutely should have an opt out clause. But if they did, I&#039;m not sure everyone should use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can completely see where you are coming from on this, but there is another way of looking at it.</p>
<p>Seven million Americans live overseas. Less than half a million of them voted in 2004 (I think I&#8217;ve got that right). Many of those who didn&#8217;t vote wanted to but found it too difficult to navigate the nightmare rules many states have on overseas voting. Those that did, other than those who were serving in the military voted Kerry around 70/30.</p>
<p>So take out Minnesota, put in Ohio and &#8230;</p>
<p>All that said they absolutely should have an opt out clause. But if they did, I&#8217;m not sure everyone should use it.</p>
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		<title>By: [ Irish KC ] &#187; Kansas City Irish Festivals, Music, Pubs, &#38; Events by an Artist in Ireland &#187; Around and About</title>
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		<dc:creator>[ Irish KC ] &#187; Kansas City Irish Festivals, Music, Pubs, &#38; Events by an Artist in Ireland &#187; Around and About</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Grandad got his cartoon from me only days after suggesting his name. &#160;&#160;&#8226; Sabrina Dent has a story about the behaviour of the US Embassy in Dublin. &#160;&#160;&#8226; Damien Mulley met [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Grandad got his cartoon from me only days after suggesting his name. &nbsp;&nbsp;&#8226; Sabrina Dent has a story about the behaviour of the US Embassy in Dublin. &nbsp;&nbsp;&#8226; Damien Mulley met [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Markg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick Google and resultant Wiki tells me that GW signed a bill into law back in 2003, called CAN SPAM.

Unfortunately for you, any message containing political, religious or details of national security are not exempt.

As you filled in a document that is property of the United States of America, on soil that is technically the United States of America, the laws of that land apply.

Opt-out does exist in American law, under this bill, but again, is not required if the email can be categorised under the headings I mentioned in the 2nd sentence.

I think you may have to get Jimmy Stewart on them if you want modifications to the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick Google and resultant Wiki tells me that GW signed a bill into law back in 2003, called CAN SPAM.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for you, any message containing political, religious or details of national security are not exempt.</p>
<p>As you filled in a document that is property of the United States of America, on soil that is technically the United States of America, the laws of that land apply.</p>
<p>Opt-out does exist in American law, under this bill, but again, is not required if the email can be categorised under the headings I mentioned in the 2nd sentence.</p>
<p>I think you may have to get Jimmy Stewart on them if you want modifications to the law.</p>
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		<title>By: CronoCloud Creeggan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CronoCloud Creeggan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh!  Warden is the system the US uses to quickly alert overseas citizens to situations they might need to know fast.

http://wikileaks.cx/wiki/Warden_system_(military)

So if all of a sudden, wild zontars from outer space decided to come down and eat Americans in Dublin, a message would go out on Warden.  You should probably encourage the embassy in Eire to not use Warden for stuff like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh!  Warden is the system the US uses to quickly alert overseas citizens to situations they might need to know fast.</p>
<p><a href="http://wikileaks.cx/wiki/Warden_system_(military)" rel="nofollow">http://wikileaks.cx/wiki/Warden_system_(military)</a></p>
<p>So if all of a sudden, wild zontars from outer space decided to come down and eat Americans in Dublin, a message would go out on Warden.  You should probably encourage the embassy in Eire to not use Warden for stuff like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Maryrose Lyons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maryrose Lyons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Run for President  in  2012 on a ticket of No Spam, No War, and a couple of other things</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Run for President  in  2012 on a ticket of No Spam, No War, and a couple of other things</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats with this &#039;sue&#039; culture!

Set up a rule in your email so you never see their mail as Twenty says and have a long walk and a cup of hot chocolate and fuget about it - as they say in the states.

Your getting a mortgage for petes sakes, you have enough on your plate already! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats with this &#8216;sue&#8217; culture!</p>
<p>Set up a rule in your email so you never see their mail as Twenty says and have a long walk and a cup of hot chocolate and fuget about it &#8211; as they say in the states.</p>
<p>Your getting a mortgage for petes sakes, you have enough on your plate already! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 10:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really interesting to see you are looking for the &quot;opt out&quot; option.  That&#039;s a European model under our data protection regime.  Data Protection laws require all data subjects to be able to &quot;opt out&quot; of any subsequent data-processing / contacting etc.

The same requirement does not exist under US law - as far as I&#039;m aware.  (Although some places may provide it nonetheless).

I think it&#039;s interesting that people complain so much about data protection laws in Europe, and yet here you have experienced an exchange where they were not in place and you seemed to show preference for the European system.

As for what you can do about it, I really have no idea other than write to them expressing your concerns and see what comes of it.

C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really interesting to see you are looking for the &#8220;opt out&#8221; option.  That&#8217;s a European model under our data protection regime.  Data Protection laws require all data subjects to be able to &#8220;opt out&#8221; of any subsequent data-processing / contacting etc.</p>
<p>The same requirement does not exist under US law &#8211; as far as I&#8217;m aware.  (Although some places may provide it nonetheless).</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s interesting that people complain so much about data protection laws in Europe, and yet here you have experienced an exchange where they were not in place and you seemed to show preference for the European system.</p>
<p>As for what you can do about it, I really have no idea other than write to them expressing your concerns and see what comes of it.</p>
<p>C.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 09:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Governmental immunity applies in the US unless harmful negligence can be shown.  Don&#039;t think it would work in this case, however annoyed and inconvenienced you might be.  However, if you can take care of it on Irish soil, you might have a case, but given that the embassy (and anything sent from it) is considered American soil, you might be SOOL.

On an aside, we had to go there to get Ciara&#039;s citizenship when shewas  a month old.  It was the most awful experience.  They had all the parents come at the same damn time (a tip I can only assume they picked up from Irish hospitals) but only had two staff to wait on them.  Babies screaming, no AC, 4-5 hour wait with only travel brochures to read was not good at all.  One poor woman was trying to breastfeed and they kept calling her up needlessly, wouldn&#039;t even talk to her husband who was apprently not the citizen, even though they only wanted to hand her a form.  Unbelievable!

I guess I was expecting some sort of James Bond scenario where US citizens are rushed in and treated like royalty with hot marines walking around with even hotter guns! ;-) Heh!  But ya know what, compared to the INS in downtown Chicago, where you become but a cow in a herd of cattle, and are prodded and shouted at accordingly, it was a cake walk.

Good luck with your inquiries!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Governmental immunity applies in the US unless harmful negligence can be shown.  Don&#8217;t think it would work in this case, however annoyed and inconvenienced you might be.  However, if you can take care of it on Irish soil, you might have a case, but given that the embassy (and anything sent from it) is considered American soil, you might be SOOL.</p>
<p>On an aside, we had to go there to get Ciara&#8217;s citizenship when shewas  a month old.  It was the most awful experience.  They had all the parents come at the same damn time (a tip I can only assume they picked up from Irish hospitals) but only had two staff to wait on them.  Babies screaming, no AC, 4-5 hour wait with only travel brochures to read was not good at all.  One poor woman was trying to breastfeed and they kept calling her up needlessly, wouldn&#8217;t even talk to her husband who was apprently not the citizen, even though they only wanted to hand her a form.  Unbelievable!</p>
<p>I guess I was expecting some sort of James Bond scenario where US citizens are rushed in and treated like royalty with hot marines walking around with even hotter guns! ;-) Heh!  But ya know what, compared to the INS in downtown Chicago, where you become but a cow in a herd of cattle, and are prodded and shouted at accordingly, it was a cake walk.</p>
<p>Good luck with your inquiries!</p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina Dent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kit that is a spectacular idea. Your comment got held up in spam filtering, but that&#039;s a winner. I will write an actual letter to an actual person and whine my bitchy head off and see if I can&#039;t get a responsive reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kit that is a spectacular idea. Your comment got held up in spam filtering, but that&#8217;s a winner. I will write an actual letter to an actual person and whine my bitchy head off and see if I can&#8217;t get a responsive reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Twenty Major</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twenty Major</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not suggesting that spam should be tolerated, merely saying that for making ones life easier it might be better to deal with it locally than deal with the beaurocracy associated with any government, least of all the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that spam should be tolerated, merely saying that for making ones life easier it might be better to deal with it locally than deal with the beaurocracy associated with any government, least of all the USA.</p>
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