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	<title>Comments on: The New Ireland: Rockin&#039; the 80s</title>
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		<title>By: liam noonan</title>
		<link>http://www.sabrinadent.com/2007/12/30/the-new-ireland-rockin-the-80s/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>liam noonan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked for US startups, worked in USA, Europe and now working and living in Ireland with my wife and our two boys in a small rural village. I would have to recommend the Irish way of life, Continental Europe may have more public infrastructures/services but can me more restrictive as to which doctor/dentist or school you can send your kids too (Sweden for example).

Rural Ireland hasn&#039;t changed much, people are moving back instead of moving away and people still stop for a chat at the local shop and coop hardware shop. Community development associations have played a pivotal role in retaining the glue that keeps communities together. The Church and the GAA may have lost some of its influence but communities still work together to get Creches up and running, hill walks developed etc.

Our social/public  systems of health and education are superior to what one may find in the US.  When you have small children you suddenly realise the benefit of after hours doctor service such as shannon doc and the work that nurses do in the intensive care sections of maternity wings of your local hospitals. Things could be better, hospital services could be better but what we take for granted is pretty significant.

I don&#039;t think I will ever understand how SAT scores work and what they indicate. The classical approach of studying subjects and discussing them using meaningful mechanisms such as essays etc seem more practical and realistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked for US startups, worked in USA, Europe and now working and living in Ireland with my wife and our two boys in a small rural village. I would have to recommend the Irish way of life, Continental Europe may have more public infrastructures/services but can me more restrictive as to which doctor/dentist or school you can send your kids too (Sweden for example).</p>
<p>Rural Ireland hasn&#8217;t changed much, people are moving back instead of moving away and people still stop for a chat at the local shop and coop hardware shop. Community development associations have played a pivotal role in retaining the glue that keeps communities together. The Church and the GAA may have lost some of its influence but communities still work together to get Creches up and running, hill walks developed etc.</p>
<p>Our social/public  systems of health and education are superior to what one may find in the US.  When you have small children you suddenly realise the benefit of after hours doctor service such as shannon doc and the work that nurses do in the intensive care sections of maternity wings of your local hospitals. Things could be better, hospital services could be better but what we take for granted is pretty significant.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I will ever understand how SAT scores work and what they indicate. The classical approach of studying subjects and discussing them using meaningful mechanisms such as essays etc seem more practical and realistic.</p>
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		<title>By: AvoidingLife</title>
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		<dc:creator>AvoidingLife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The grass is always greener isn&#039;t it? ;-)  I guess I let the financial side of things overtake the pros.  I did have an amazing company health plan and salary mind you, and now here there&#039;s no point in me going back to work as I wouldn&#039;t be able to afford the car and childcare required to do it.  Wouldn&#039;t be worth it - yet if it stays like this - we&#039;ll never get back.  *SIGH*

With you on the education though.  That was the main plus of coming here.  Ever compared the leaving cert to the GED/SAT/ACT?  I started university in the US as a junior just based on having the IB (EU equivalent to the leaving cert.)  SCARY!  I guess I&#039;d rather them be brow beaten with Catholicism than enter university not knowing how to write an essay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The grass is always greener isn&#8217;t it? ;-)  I guess I let the financial side of things overtake the pros.  I did have an amazing company health plan and salary mind you, and now here there&#8217;s no point in me going back to work as I wouldn&#8217;t be able to afford the car and childcare required to do it.  Wouldn&#8217;t be worth it &#8211; yet if it stays like this &#8211; we&#8217;ll never get back.  *SIGH*</p>
<p>With you on the education though.  That was the main plus of coming here.  Ever compared the leaving cert to the GED/SAT/ACT?  I started university in the US as a junior just based on having the IB (EU equivalent to the leaving cert.)  SCARY!  I guess I&#8217;d rather them be brow beaten with Catholicism than enter university not knowing how to write an essay!</p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina Dent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!

I think suburban USA is a bit of a crack pipe dream, though. The cost of health insurance for a family of four will kill you (unless you are fortunate enough to have a tremendous company health plan, which isn&#039;t out of the question but is something people native to Europe tend to overlook when assessing job offers, for example.) There is, as much as we reel in horror at rising crime rates here, far more violence in your average Anytown USA than in Ballymcnowhere, Ireland. Education can be dicey (although I wretch at the education &quot;choices&quot; here, too) and the economy is about to tank, big time. I would far, far rather be unemployed here than there, that&#039;s for damn sure. And I&#039;ll take Bertie over the the Shrub any day, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>I think suburban USA is a bit of a crack pipe dream, though. The cost of health insurance for a family of four will kill you (unless you are fortunate enough to have a tremendous company health plan, which isn&#8217;t out of the question but is something people native to Europe tend to overlook when assessing job offers, for example.) There is, as much as we reel in horror at rising crime rates here, far more violence in your average Anytown USA than in Ballymcnowhere, Ireland. Education can be dicey (although I wretch at the education &#8220;choices&#8221; here, too) and the economy is about to tank, big time. I would far, far rather be unemployed here than there, that&#8217;s for damn sure. And I&#8217;ll take Bertie over the the Shrub any day, too.</p>
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		<title>By: AvoidingLife</title>
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		<dc:creator>AvoidingLife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  Having left Ireland as a youngster in the 80s and growing up for the most part in the US and continent I honestly expected it to be so different from the US when we moved back here in 2005.  When I say different I was thinking provincial - the same welcoming friendly people I&#039;d left all those years ago! Hah!  We seriously thought it would be a better place to bring up the kids (the-unexpected-weren&#039;t supposed-to-arrive-for-at-least-ten-more-years-but-thank-God- we&#039;re-married-kids!) but now realise it&#039;s quite the opposite.  Suburban USA is where it is methinks... but now being caught up in the consumerism, getting back there is not going to be within our means for a very long time!  You summed it all up quite well though! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Having left Ireland as a youngster in the 80s and growing up for the most part in the US and continent I honestly expected it to be so different from the US when we moved back here in 2005.  When I say different I was thinking provincial &#8211; the same welcoming friendly people I&#8217;d left all those years ago! Hah!  We seriously thought it would be a better place to bring up the kids (the-unexpected-weren&#8217;t supposed-to-arrive-for-at-least-ten-more-years-but-thank-God- we&#8217;re-married-kids!) but now realise it&#8217;s quite the opposite.  Suburban USA is where it is methinks&#8230; but now being caught up in the consumerism, getting back there is not going to be within our means for a very long time!  You summed it all up quite well though! ;-)</p>
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